Comments on: Vanish Fixed in 3.3? Possibly! http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/ Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:02:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Bmx http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-538 Bmx Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:08:55 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-538 The arena issue is true, hunters and mages kite me to death, I need to do a hard reset and try keeping them cc'd until my CD's are back up, then their cake! :) Prot palas and warriors are easy ;) Open with Garrote -> 4/5 pt Rupture and vanish + get away ... wait a few secs open with CS and muti+ KS and their down to around 30% :P when they get out of the stuns disarm and win ;-) If the pala bubbles pop sprint and gtfo :) The arena issue is true, hunters and mages kite me to death, I need to do a hard reset and try keeping them cc’d until my CD’s are back up, then their cake! :)

Prot palas and warriors are easy ;)
Open with Garrote -> 4/5 pt Rupture and vanish + get away … wait a few secs open with CS and muti+ KS and their down to around 30% :P when they get out of the stuns disarm and win ;-)
If the pala bubbles pop sprint and gtfo :)

]]> By: Dcruize http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-535 Dcruize Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:32:32 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-535 1v1 I'm struggling vs prot warriors/palas, any type of druid and discs (those who can juke properly). Unless it's 1v1 in an arena with just me and a mage/hunter left, then I get kited to death without CDs. 1v1 I’m struggling vs prot warriors/palas, any type of druid and discs (those who can juke properly).

Unless it’s 1v1 in an arena with just me and a mage/hunter left, then I get kited to death without CDs.

]]> By: Bmx http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-533 Bmx Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:23:10 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-533 Let's hope you are right darryl! :) I am not too sure though. At this very moment our tools are already powerfull versus those classes. The only classes I have issues with are Disc priests, Feral and resto druids. And thats only in 1v1 pretty much :) Let’s hope you are right darryl! :) I am not too sure though. At this very moment our tools are already powerfull versus those classes. The only classes I have issues with are Disc priests, Feral and resto druids. And thats only in 1v1 pretty much :)

]]> By: darryl http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-504 darryl Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:21:48 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-504 COME ON PEOPLE. Really. Blizz is finally gonna fix this shit. Look at hunter,dk,mages,locks at the immunities that they get to damage. It s about damn time that our shit started working right. And yes COS should be 100% period they gave hunters a 100% melee dodge ability. I for one am glad with all the other op changes coming to all the other classes they have to do something so we can keep up COME ON PEOPLE. Really. Blizz is finally gonna fix this shit. Look at hunter,dk,mages,locks at the immunities that they get to damage. It s about damn time that our shit started working right. And yes COS should be 100% period they gave hunters a 100% melee dodge ability. I for one am glad with all the other op changes coming to all the other classes they have to do something so we can keep up

]]> By: Cruize http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-304 Cruize Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:35:49 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-304 I wonder if it will become like a 1sec Blessing of Protection, so you'll be unable to re-open until the immunity has worn off. That could balance it a little I guess, but tbh I can live with it being slightly OP if needs be :) I wonder if it will become like a 1sec Blessing of Protection, so you’ll be unable to re-open until the immunity has worn off. That could balance it a little I guess, but tbh I can live with it being slightly OP if needs be :)

]]> By: Blasse http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Blasse Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:55:28 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-301 Vanish *Shit!* – Preparation – Vanish *FUCK!!* that it’s just unhealthy for my liver. What he said. I rather see a nerf to other stuff then have my vanish failing. It makes me goddamn angry that I shall base my vanish on luck. Same thing with CoS. Give it a 100% and nurf something else. Why make playing a rogue soo luck based? Vanish *Shit!* – Preparation – Vanish *FUCK!!* that it’s just unhealthy for my liver.

What he said.

I rather see a nerf to other stuff then have my vanish failing. It makes me goddamn angry that I shall base my vanish on luck. Same thing with CoS. Give it a 100% and nurf something else.
Why make playing a rogue soo luck based?

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Tamatar Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:27:08 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-299 1 Sec immunity is indeed VERY strong, but c'mon, vanish as it stands now is a joke.. so often I just happen to Vanish *Shit!* - Preparation - Vanish *FUCK!!* that it's just unhealthy for my liver. BTW, my dwarf's racial is now indirectly nerfed as it's not so much vital against bleeds anymore. Oh well.. Being AoEd out of vanish could seem a pro move worth the reward from the point of view of non-rogues, but with so many classes having AoE now it just nullify Vanish completely (DK casting blood boil for example.. they don't even need to guess where are we). Vanish just HAD to work this way in my opinion. On the other hand, it's true that it *may* make too stronger, as Rogues were balanced around a non working vanish, but as Blizzard said, in that case something will be done. Hope however that Prep and Cloak will not be touched: prep without vanish in it would become almost trash, and Cloak would need a 100% success rate, not a nerf! 1 Sec immunity is indeed VERY strong, but c’mon, vanish as it stands now is a joke.. so often I just happen to Vanish *Shit!* – Preparation – Vanish *FUCK!!* that it’s just unhealthy for my liver.

BTW, my dwarf’s racial is now indirectly nerfed as it’s not so much vital against bleeds anymore. Oh well..

Being AoEd out of vanish could seem a pro move worth the reward from the point of view of non-rogues, but with so many classes having AoE now it just nullify Vanish completely (DK casting blood boil for example.. they don’t even need to guess where are we). Vanish just HAD to work this way in my opinion. On the other hand, it’s true that it *may* make too stronger, as Rogues were balanced around a non working vanish, but as Blizzard said, in that case something will be done. Hope however that Prep and Cloak will not be touched: prep without vanish in it would become almost trash, and Cloak would need a 100% success rate, not a nerf!

]]> By: Flair http://lastrogue.com/vanish-fixed-in-3-3-most-likely/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Flair Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:16:24 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=778#comment-295 tbh I think a 1sec immunity is too much... Vanish doesn't need a 1 sec immunity, people should still be able to break out of it by other means. What it really needs is just a 0.5sec immunity for server lag for target's spells and auto attack. Eg; a rogue vanishes, and you try to catch him out of it with FoK within the second, well guess what you just wasted 50energy, and having the rogue getting the opener on you. Ghostcrawler said if this fix is too OP, they will nerf it even if it's working as intended. imo it will be OP and I do hope they drop the duration of immunity. Having said that, I'm glad vanish is finally getting fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think my arena partner will be glad I can finally stop cursing and raging about vanish :) Can't wait for the update! tbh I think a 1sec immunity is too much…
Vanish doesn’t need a 1 sec immunity, people should still be able to break out of it by other means.

What it really needs is just a 0.5sec immunity for server lag for target’s spells and auto attack.
Eg; a rogue vanishes, and you try to catch him out of it with FoK within the second, well guess what you just wasted 50energy, and having the rogue getting the opener on you.

Ghostcrawler said if this fix is too OP, they will nerf it even if it’s working as intended. imo it will be OP and I do hope they drop the duration of immunity.

Having said that, I’m glad vanish is finally getting fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think my arena partner will be glad I can finally stop cursing and raging about vanish :)
Can’t wait for the update!

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