Comments on: Counter-openers

By: Fairytail-Chromaggus

Fairytail-Chromaggus — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 02:29:23 +0000

Versus an enemy rogue when you open then tend to trinket and vanish, the combo i always use is FoK then /targetenemy /cast Blind.. it leaves the rogue at your mercy for at least 10 secs while you rebuild energy, restealth and cds to come back

By: Evilish

Evilish — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:14:30 +0000

I like evasion… I’ve managed to get rogues to burn their cd on dismantle as well as kidney shot after a quick trinket/evasion, and this totally turned the tide of the fight. Guess it doesn’t work as well for blind, but half the time they got a deadly poison on me when they opened so it’d be useless anyway

By: Lionaxis

Lionaxis — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:13:25 +0000

oh and i forgot… the evasion gives you over 50% chance of dodging the blind also, its not fool-proof… but when you don’t have opener, nothing is

By: Lionaxis

Lionaxis — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:12:05 +0000

One tactic i have found effective against rogue opener is this

/cast trinket
/cast evasion

It must be done very fast, and you need to mouse turn to face the rogue, but if done correctly you have a serious good chance of dodging the 5 point stun, i like to try and gouge then vanish (the gouge so he cant fok me out of stealth) then reopen with sap, they still have their trinket… now its up to you to blind when they trink or stun them right back

By: Eryenn

Eryenn — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:04:54 +0000

I use that tactic quite often as well, but instead of having a combined macro, I just use Every Man for Himself (bound to one of the mouse side-buttons) and spamming blind at the same time (bound to “A” in my case). And of course I’m using mouseover macro for blind, I found it to be more fast and reliable.

in case you don’t know how it works:
#showtooltip
/cast [target=mousover,exists,harm] Blind; Blind

By: MyName

MyName — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:19:35 +0000

You bind your blind to mouswheel up or down.
Pressing your trinket key + mouswheel is instant. And gives you a GCD to do switch to vanish or whatever.

No need for macro.

By: Slicé

Slicé — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:51:10 +0000

I also use the >trinklet > gouge combination – seems to be quicker with a better outcome. Of course it has it’s downsides with most rogues having a large amount of dodge and having to gouge from the front. But if it does work – they are in a ‘barny rubble’! – If they trink they are dead for sure! – if they dont and follow into stunlock you still have your blind, the moment they use their trinklet – I often end up with a double blind situation – This is good in context because you have turned the whole fight around to equal par…Now its jsut a matter of luck and MS on first jump. Gouge is also nice if vanish is not up to CS, make em bleed/disarm/evasion and it makes the whole situation a lot easier.

By: David

David — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:01:22 +0000

I prefer to trinket –> Gouge —> Vanish.