Comments on: 3.3 Patch Notes Updated http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/ Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:12:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gangi http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-613 Gangi Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:25:33 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-613 I'm still gonna be using DP on OH and IP/WP on MH, not real mathmatic about stuff but it would seem that getting your offhand to hit cap is unreasonable like 700ish or some shit, unless they have changed something, so your instant would be going off much more from your mainhand and u really just need the refresh from DP. Just a guess, i have tried both ways, i dont notice any huge diff swaping DP to MH. Great site btw, keep up the good work I’m still gonna be using DP on OH and IP/WP on MH, not real mathmatic about stuff but it would seem that getting your offhand to hit cap is unreasonable like 700ish or some shit, unless they have changed something, so your instant would be going off much more from your mainhand and u really just need the refresh from DP. Just a guess, i have tried both ways, i dont notice any huge diff swaping DP to MH. Great site btw, keep up the good work

]]> By: Bmx http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-534 Bmx Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:24:00 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-534 You mean the new header? ;) Your welcome :P I did the start of it and Dcruize gave it the finishing touch! ::) You mean the new header? ;)
Your welcome :P I did the start of it and Dcruize gave it the finishing touch! ::)

]]> By: Flair http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-528 Flair Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:36:13 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-528 Nice new theme! :) Nice new theme! :)

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-496 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:04:53 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-496 For combat, being forced to use a slow mainhand, that's for sure, but with mutilate we could opt for a quick mainhand with DP and a slow offhand with IP. That would also help stacking DP even quicker.. and *could* (don't know.. would require some maths) be even higher dps than the other way around. For combat, being forced to use a slow mainhand, that’s for sure, but with mutilate we could opt for a quick mainhand with DP and a slow offhand with IP. That would also help stacking DP even quicker.. and *could* (don’t know.. would require some maths) be even higher dps than the other way around.

]]> By: Camo http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-495 Camo Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:18 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-495 It's maily the fact that deadly isn't normalized. A flat 30% chance to proc is inferior to 7ppm for instant or 20ppm for wound on a slow mainhand. You would get procs for sure but only at the rate of deadly. It’s maily the fact that deadly isn’t normalized.
A flat 30% chance to proc is inferior to 7ppm for instant or 20ppm for wound on a slow mainhand. You would get procs for sure but only at the rate of deadly.

]]> By: Dcruize http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-494 Dcruize Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:32:08 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-494 Thanks for the feedback on the ads problem - the simply solution was to remove the adds. I'll replace them with some rogue-related images or something when I get a chance. Thanks for the feedback on the ads problem – the simply solution was to remove the adds. I’ll replace them with some rogue-related images or something when I get a chance.

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-493 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:34:02 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-493 Why DP offhand? If you main hand it, you'll get DP->IP procs from finishers too. I'm not saying it's best to mainhand DP, but I'm still wondering what's the correct answer. Why DP offhand? If you main hand it, you’ll get DP->IP procs from finishers too. I’m not saying it’s best to mainhand DP, but I’m still wondering what’s the correct answer.

]]> By: Camo http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-492 Camo Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:27 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-492 "because it solves the dillema “go for fast offhand for more deadly or go for slow and have to mainhand deadly and have to shiv”" It's still instant MH (wound for pvp) and deadly OH and yes it looks like even combat will now use instant for pve and mutilate will be superior to combat but that's just ptr. Deadly isn't normalized and therefore will proc more often on fast weapons and it's on OH because you'll get poison procs from finishers. But I think it's hard to maintain a full stack in pvp environment. “because it solves the dillema “go for fast offhand for more deadly or go for slow and have to mainhand deadly and have to shiv””

It’s still instant MH (wound for pvp) and deadly OH and yes it looks like even combat will now use instant for pve and mutilate will be superior to combat but that’s just ptr. Deadly isn’t normalized and therefore will proc more often on fast weapons and it’s on OH because you’ll get poison procs from finishers.
But I think it’s hard to maintain a full stack in pvp environment.

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:52:21 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-489 Nope, I have double checked, deactivating single banners until sure, the problem happens when my adblock deactivate this banner: http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=lastroguecom-20&o=1&p=48&l=st1&mode=videogames&search=warcraft&fc1=000000&lt1=&lc1=3366FF&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr ...which is the amazon banner at the bottom. When Adblock takes that banner out of sight, the white box collapse. Nope, I have double checked, deactivating single banners until sure, the problem happens when my adblock deactivate this banner:

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=lastroguecom-20&o=1&p=48&l=st1&mode=videogames&search=warcraft&fc1=000000&lt1=&lc1=3366FF&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr

…which is the amazon banner at the bottom. When Adblock takes that banner out of sight, the white box collapse.

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:29:15 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-488 ..yeah, it should be the "War of Titans" banner on the right of the page.. in fact it's from that point that the white box ends. ..yeah, it should be the “War of Titans” banner on the right of the page.. in fact it’s from that point that the white box ends.

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:27:40 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-487 Ah, found! Seems like it's AdBlock plus: if I deactivate it, I can see the page fine. Maybe some banner or something else which is taken out of the page, but not completely, leaving some open html tag? Strange however.. never had such problems with AdBlock in the past, and I've always read this blog flawlessly Ah, found! Seems like it’s AdBlock plus: if I deactivate it, I can see the page fine. Maybe some banner or something else which is taken out of the page, but not completely, leaving some open html tag? Strange however.. never had such problems with AdBlock in the past, and I’ve always read this blog flawlessly

]]> By: Dcruize http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-486 Dcruize Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:18:47 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-486 Wierd, not getting it happen with firefox 3.5.5 here. Thanks, I'll keep looking and try to get it breaking for me as well. Until then I've set the page background as white to see if it helps :/ Wierd, not getting it happen with firefox 3.5.5 here. Thanks, I’ll keep looking and try to get it breaking for me as well. Until then I’ve set the page background as white to see if it helps :/

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:20:22 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-485 Firefox 3.5.5 (works fine on IE). Problem is the white box doesn't stretch vertically for the whole page length.. resulting in black posts above the black background. Firefox 3.5.5 (works fine on IE). Problem is the white box doesn’t stretch vertically for the whole page length.. resulting in black posts above the black background.

]]> By: Dcruize http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-483 Dcruize Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:12:18 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-483 Ahh thanks for the heads-up. I've been adjusting the theme - what browser are you using? I've been able to test it in firefox/ie6/ie8 so far. Ahh thanks for the heads-up. I’ve been adjusting the theme – what browser are you using? I’ve been able to test it in firefox/ie6/ie8 so far.

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-482 Tamatar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:05:11 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-482 Out of topic.. am I the only one who sees the blog's layout a bit messed up? A bit like some html tag was unproperly closed or such.. Out of topic.. am I the only one who sees the blog’s layout a bit messed up? A bit like some html tag was unproperly closed or such..

]]> By: Hissatsu http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-481 Hissatsu Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:18:20 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-481 And on topic, i'd like to say 1) Any rogue buff is good ^_^ 2) This buff especially is very needed because it solves the dillema "go for fast offhand for more deadly or go for slow and have to mainhand deadly and have to shiv". Deadly poison was suggested to deal damage when its full 5 stacks, but blizz made it even better than that! Totally awesome buff 3) The buff to DP application from talent is also important, it wont buff alot of PVE dps (or maybe will now, maybe now you'd go mh deadly oh instant in PVE) but will still make this talent more interesting, and it will probably make this talent taken into pvp builds, wich is nice since more builds - more variety - more fun 4) Vanish failing - dude get over it, yes it FAILS. Yes against huntards and retards it fails ALOT. But it fails for every player not only you. I mean, accept that it fails and just use vanish as a root removal. Do not hope for it not to fail. Do not expect it to work. I dont expect it to work until i'm at safe distance and not being autoattacked. I know it hurts, i know its a bug, etc etc, but whining brings you nowhere. And on topic, i’d like to say

1) Any rogue buff is good ^_^

2) This buff especially is very needed because it solves the dillema “go for fast offhand for more deadly or go for slow and have to mainhand deadly and have to shiv”. Deadly poison was suggested to deal damage when its full 5 stacks, but blizz made it even better than that! Totally awesome buff

3) The buff to DP application from talent is also important, it wont buff alot of PVE dps (or maybe will now, maybe now you’d go mh deadly oh instant in PVE) but will still make this talent more interesting, and it will probably make this talent taken into pvp builds, wich is nice since more builds – more variety – more fun

4) Vanish failing – dude get over it, yes it FAILS. Yes against huntards and retards it fails ALOT. But it fails for every player not only you. I mean, accept that it fails and just use vanish as a root removal. Do not hope for it not to fail. Do not expect it to work. I dont expect it to work until i’m at safe distance and not being autoattacked. I know it hurts, i know its a bug, etc etc, but whining brings you nowhere.

]]> By: Hissatsu http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-480 Hissatsu Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:13:10 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-480 Great blog, been reading you for a while, nice job, keep it up please! Great blog, been reading you for a while, nice job, keep it up please!

]]> By: Tamatar http://lastrogue.com/3-3-patch-notes-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-467 Tamatar Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:12:02 +0000 http://lastrogue.com/?p=871#comment-467 Not only is going to be a sensible DPS increase for PvE rogues but PvP ones as well: - first, you are going to get the first layer of DP a lot faster, giving you the option to envenom quicker after a target switch - secondary, at a full stack you are going to apply way more Wound Poison procs, each of them refreshing Crippling, just in case Not earth shattering, but still very good! On the other hand, I keep on hating Vanish.. lost another handful of arena matches yesterday due to Hunters' shots taking me out WAY after I had vanished.. grrrr.. Not only is going to be a sensible DPS increase for PvE rogues but PvP ones as well:

- first, you are going to get the first layer of DP a lot faster, giving you the option to envenom quicker after a target switch

- secondary, at a full stack you are going to apply way more Wound Poison procs, each of them refreshing Crippling, just in case

Not earth shattering, but still very good!

On the other hand, I keep on hating Vanish.. lost another handful of arena matches yesterday due to Hunters’ shots taking me out WAY after I had vanished.. grrrr..

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